{"id":19980,"date":"2022-09-24T08:16:54","date_gmt":"2022-09-24T13:16:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-jeremiah-4112\/"},"modified":"2022-09-24T08:16:54","modified_gmt":"2022-09-24T13:16:54","slug":"exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-jeremiah-4112","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-jeremiah-4112\/","title":{"rendered":"Exegetical and Hermeneutical Commentary of Jeremiah 41:12"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 align='center'><b><i> Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that [are] in Gibeon. <\/i><\/b><\/h3>\n<p> <strong> 12<\/strong>. <em> Gibeon<\/em> ] See on <span class='bible'>Jer 28:1<\/span>. The &ldquo;great waters&rdquo; apparently are to be identified with the &ldquo;pool&rdquo; of <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:13<\/span>. Gibeon was about a mile N. of Mizpah.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P STYLE=\"text-indent: 0.75em\">An open pool still exists at Gibeon, and a large subterranean reservoir fed by a copious natural spring. Gibeon is about two miles north of Mizpah.<\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Albert Barnes&#8217; Notes on the Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P> These <\/P> <P>great waters are supposed to be a lake, or some great pool in Gibeon, the very same that is mentioned <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:13<\/span>, where Joab and the servants of David met, the one keeping on one side of the pool, the other on the other side. <\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: English Annotations on the Holy Bible by Matthew Poole<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P><B>12. the . . . waters<\/B> (<span class='bible'>2Sa2:13<\/span>); a large reservoir or lake. <\/P><P>       <B>in Gibeon<\/B>on the roadfrom Mizpah to Ammon: one of the sacerdotal cities of Benjamin, fourmiles northwest of Jerusalem, now <I>Eljib.<\/I><\/P><\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Jamieson, Fausset and Brown&#8217;s Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible <\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong>Then they took all the men<\/strong>,&#8230;. All the soldiers that were under their command; this they did at once, believing the report to be true, as they had reason to do; since they knew of Ishmael&#8217;s designs, and had given notice and warning of them to Gedaliah, though he would not listen to them:<\/p>\n<p><strong>and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah<\/strong>: resolving to give him battle, and to revenge the innocent blood he had shed, and rescue the captives out of his hands he was carrying to the Ammonites:<\/p>\n<p><strong>and found him by the great waters that [are] in Gibeon<\/strong>; taking this road to the country of Ammon, though it was not quite the direct road; either to avoid the forces of Johanan; or rather for the sake of the hid treasure at Shechem, or Shiloh, or Samaria, the ten men had promised him for their lives. These great waters were the same with the pool at Gibeon, where the servants of Ishbosheth and the servants of David met, and sat one on one side, and the other on the other; and where twelve young men on each side slew one another, and from thence called Helkathhazzurim, <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:12<\/span>; and the Targum calls it<\/p>\n<p> &#8220;the pool of many waters, which were in Gibeon.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> Josephus p calls it a fountain in Hebron; which perhaps should be read Gibeon.<\/p>\n<p>p Antiqu. l. 10. c. 9. sect. 5.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Gill&#8217;s Exposition of the Entire Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> Here the Prophet informs us, that Ishmael did not attain his wishes; for he had resolved to sell; as it were, the people to the king of Ammon, but he was intercepted in his course. But he says first, that  John the son of Kareah  had  heard  the report, and that he, together with other leaders, went to meet him in order to intercept him in his journey. He says also that  he collected all the men,  even those who had been dispersed. All then they could have got, they enlisted, and went to fight with Ishmael. And the Prophet adds, that they  found him at the great waters  And I think they were so called because they were either a lake or a pool. I doubt not, then, but that it was a common name. Some say that the waters were then abundant, because there had been constant rains. But this conjecture is not probable. The simpler meaning is, that these waters were thus called, because in that part the abundance of water was not great in comparison with the lake.  (125) Ishmael then was found there. It is now added by the Prophet, that the captives rejoiced when they saw John, and immediately came over to his side. he therefore says, &#8212; <\/p>\n<p>  (125) There was a pool in Gibeon, mentioned in <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:13<\/span>; and it must have been large, otherwise it would not have been called &#8220;great  waters.&#8221;  &#8212;  Ed.  <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Calvin&#8217;s Complete Commentary<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>(12) <strong>By the great waters that are in Gibeon.<\/strong>Johanan and his friends had been unable to prevent the slaughter of which they had warned Gedaliah (<span class='bible'>Jer. 41:15<\/span>), but they were not too late to avenge it. Gibeon, retaining its name with little alteration in the modern <em>El-jibe, <\/em>lay about two miles from Mizpah; so that Ishmael must have halted on thinking himself safe against attack. On the east side of the hill on which it stands there are the remains of a large tank, about 120 feet by 100. It appears as the pool of Gibeon in <span class='bible'>2Sa. 2:13<\/span>, as the scene of a conflict between Joab and Abner. Josephus (<em>Ant. x.<\/em> 9-15) places the attack on Ishmael at the pool in Hebron, which is mentioned in <span class='bible'>2Sa. 4:12<\/span>. This, however, would hardly have been in Ishmaels route to the country of the Ammonites.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Ellicott&#8217;s Commentary for English Readers (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> <strong> 12<\/strong>. <strong> <\/strong> <strong> The great waters that are in Gibeon <\/strong> Probably a reservoir or pool. Robinson describes such a pool still existing there fed by a natural spring. Gibeon is about two miles north of Mizpah, and was one of the sacerdotal cities of Benjamin.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Whedon&#8217;s Commentary on the Old and New Testaments<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> Jer 41:12 Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that [are] in Gibeon.<\/p>\n<p> Ver. 12. <strong> Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael.<\/strong> ] This act of theirs carrieth the commendation of fortitude, of charity, and of piety. Like as did that of Abraham in rescuing Lot; of Gideon and Jehoshaphat in delivering the Israelites from their barbarous and blood-thirsty enemies; of Scanderbeg, Hunniades, Gustavus King of Sweden, &amp;c. Unless Ishmael and Johanan did as Ishmael the Persian King of Selymus, and the Great Turk, who, fighting for the empire of the East, masked their aspiring thoughts under the veil of zeal to their religion. <em> a<\/em> It well appeareth now to the world that neither of them were right, whatever they pretended. <\/p>\n<p><strong> <\/p>\n<p> And they found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon.<\/strong> ] Where, in David&rsquo;s days, those youngsters of Helkathhazzurim had sheathed their swords in their fellows&rsquo; bowels. 2Sa 2:16 <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><em> a<\/em> <em> Turkish History,<\/em> 515.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Trapp&#8217;s Complete Commentary (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>Gibeon. Now el Jib, about five miles north of Jerusalem, where Joab treacherously slew Amasa (2Sa 20:8, 2Sa 20:10). <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Companion Bible Notes, Appendices and Graphics<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>to fight: Gen 14:14-16, 1Sa 30:1-8, 1Sa 30:18-20 <\/p>\n<p>the great: 2Sa 2:13 <\/p>\n<p>Reciprocal: Jer 41:3 &#8211; General<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>Jer 41:12. He took his captains and pursued after Ishmael. They overtook him near a large pool at Gibeon which was a spot on the way to the land of the Ammonites.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Combined Bible Commentary<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>Johanan, the commanders, and their men, pursued Ishmael-intending to kill him. They caught up with him by the large pool in Gibeon, about three miles southwest of Mizpah (cf. 2Sa 2:12-16). Since Gibeon was to the southwest of Mizpah, it seems that Ishmael was taking a roundabout way to Ammon. Perhaps he went there to take more captives, or perhaps to elude his pursuers.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Expository Notes of Dr. Constable (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that [are] in Gibeon. 12. Gibeon ] See on Jer 28:1. The &ldquo;great waters&rdquo; apparently are to be identified with the &ldquo;pool&rdquo; of 2Sa 2:13. 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