39<\/strong>. And they said unto him, We can<\/em> ] They knew not at the time what they said, and their words were recorded in heaven. They had yet to learn how serious their words were, and afterwards they were enabled to drink of that Cup, and to be baptized with that Baptism. To St James was given strength to be steadfast unto death, and be the first martyr of the Apostolic band (Act 12:2<\/span>); to St John ( a<\/em>) to bear bereavement, first, of his brother, then of the other Apostles; ( b<\/em>) to bear a length of years in loneliness and exile in sea-girt Patmos (Rev 1:9<\/span>); and ( c<\/em>) then to die last of the Apostles, as St James first.<\/p>\n the cup<\/em> ] Comp. Joh 18:11<\/span>, “ The cup<\/em> which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?” and Mar 14:36<\/span>, “Take away this cup<\/em> from me.” Their thoughts were fastened on thrones and high places; His on a Cup of Suffering and a baptism of blood. For this use of the word “baptism” here, compare Luk 12:50<\/span>, “I have a baptism<\/em> to be baptized<\/em> with.”<\/p>\n 39. And they said unto him, Wecan<\/B>Here we see them owning their mother’s petition for them astheir own; and doubtless they were perfectly sincere in professingtheir willingness to follow their Master to any suffering He mighthave to endure. As for James,<\/I> he was the first of the apostleswho was honored, and showed himself able to be baptized with hisMaster’s baptism of blood (Act 12:1<\/span>;Act 12:2<\/span>); while John,<\/I>after going through all the persecutions to which the infant Churchwas exposed from the Jews, and sharing in the struggles andsufferings occasioned by the first triumphs of the Gospel among theGentiles, lived to be the victim, after all the rest had got toglory, of a bitter persecution in the evening of his days, for theword of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Yes, they weredear believers and blessed men, in spite of this unworthy ambition,and their Lord knew it; and perhaps the foresight of what they wouldhave to pass through, and the courageous testimony He would yetreceive from them, was the cause of that gentleness which we cannotbut wonder at in His reproof. <\/P> And Jesus said unto them, Yeshall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptismthat I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized<\/B>No doubt thisprediction, when their sufferings at length came upon them, cheeredthem with the assurance, not that they would sit on His right andleft handfor of that thought they would be heartily ashamedbutthat “if they suffered with Him, they should be also glorifiedtogether.”<\/P><\/p>\n And they said unto him we can<\/strong>,…. That is, drink of Christ’s cup and be baptized with his baptism which is another instance of their ignorance; for as they knew not the glorious state of things and the nature of it they desired places in so they were unacquainted with themselves; they were ignorant of their own weakness as well as of the greatness of the sufferings Christ should endure or even they should be called unto: had they had a just notion of either, they would not have expressed themselves in this manner without any mention of the grace of God or any dependence on the strength of Christ; [See comments on Mt 20:22]<\/span>.<\/p>\n And Jesus said unto them, ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized<\/strong>; meaning, not that they should undergo the same sufferings he did and much less for the same end and purpose: he trod the winepress alone and bore the whole punishment due to the sins of his people himself; and of them there were none with him to take a part: but that they should endure sufferings in some sort like to his for his sake as they both afterwards did; [See comments on Mt 20:23]<\/span>.<\/p>\n See on Mt 20:23-28<\/span> for discussion on these memorable verses (39-45<\/span>) identical in both Matthew and Mark. In particular in verse 45<\/span> note the language of Jesus concerning his death as “a ransom for many” ( <\/SPAN><\/span>), words of the Master that were not understood by the apostles when spoken by Jesus and which have been preserved for us by Peter through Mark. Some today seek to empty these words of all real meaning as if Jesus could not have or hold such a conception concerning his death for sinners. <\/P> <\/p>\n <\/strong><\/p>\n 1) “And they said unto Him, We can.<\/strong> (hoi de eipa n auto dunametha) “Then they responded to Him, we are able,” strong enough to do it, in the sense of dying for His testimony, Php_4:13; 1Co 10:13<\/span>.<\/p>\n 2) “And Jesus said unto them,”<\/strong> (ho de lesous eipen autois) “Then Jesus replied to them,” spoke prophetically of their coming suffering and death, in faithfulness to Him and His church, Joh 15:20<\/span>.<\/p>\n 3) “Ye shall<\/strong> indeed drink of the cup that I drink of,”<\/strong> (to poterion ho ego pino piesthe) “You (two) shall drink the cup which I drink,” the cup of suffering wrongly, though themselves in pursuit of truth and right.<\/p>\n 4) “And<\/strong> with the baptism that I am baptized <\/strong>(to baptisma ho ego baptisomai) “(And) with the baptism which I am baptized with,” immersion of passion and rejection without a cause, Mat 20:23<\/span>.<\/p>\n 5) Withal<\/strong> shall ye be baptized: <\/strong>(kai baptisthesesthe) “Even you (two) shall be baptized,” immersed or covered, with false charges, derision, mocking, rejection and death, Mat 5:11-12<\/span>; 1Ti 3:12<\/span>.<\/p>\n (39) And with the baptism.<\/strong>Here, as before, the clause is omitted in the best MSS. of St. Matthew, and is therefore, strictly speaking, peculiar to St. Mark.<\/p>\n ‘And they said to him, “We are able”.’<\/p>\n In their reply they had no idea what He was talking about. Perhaps they did naively think in terms of the King’s cup and social graces, or perhaps they acknowledged that although there may be dangers ahead when Jesus as Messiah finally sought to establish His rule, they would be well able to face the opposition bravely, and if necessary die nobly for the cause. But what they had no idea of was the humiliation, the suffering, the degradation, even the slow martyrdom by exquisite torture, of which He was speaking.<\/p>\n ‘And Jesus said to them, “The cup that I drink, you will drink, and with the baptism with which I am baptised, you will be baptised. But to sit on my right hand or on my left hand is not mine to give, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared.” ’<\/p>\n Fortunately for them Jesus knew their hearts. He knew that in spite of their dull apprehension and their desire for pre-eminence they would soon show their mettle. So He gently let them down. Now He would speak of a lesser cup and a lesser baptism of suffering which they too would be called on to share.<\/p>\n ‘The cup that I drink, you will drink.’ Not the cup of the wine of the wrath of God, for that was for Jesus only, but the cup of suffering. Both would drink it to the full.<\/p>\n ‘The baptism with which I am baptised, you will be baptised.’ They would not necessarily suffer the agonies of crucifixion, and certainly they would not die with the weight of sin on their shoulders, but in one way or another they would find themselves ‘partakers of Christ’s sufferings’ (1Pe 4:13<\/span>, compare Col 1:24<\/span>), at times overwhelmed, by persecution, hatred, imprisonment and even possibly, but not necessarily, martyrdom. James would be dead fairly early on, having triumphed in the name of Christ, when he was executed by the sword under Herod Agrippa (Act 12:2<\/span>). Of John there are conflicting accounts. One refers to his martyrdom, others to his working in the mines on Patmos (see Rev 1:9<\/span>) and dying in Ephesus an old man, having undergone the travails which inevitably faced all the Apostles, as they had those before them (Heb 11:35-38<\/span> compare 2Co 11:23-28<\/span>).<\/p>\n ‘But to sit on my right hand or on my left hand is not mine to give, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared.’ Jesus did not dispense favours. He did not have favourites. He dealt with all according to God’s purposes. Whatever He did was in line with what His father willed. Indeed, He pointed out, the ‘prime positions’ in heaven were already allotted in the foreknowledge of God (and were settled on a basis that as yet they had not begun to conceive). It was not therefore possible for them to be changed. They would go to those chosen from the beginning, for whom they had been ‘prepared’. We have here a warning against taking the twelve thrones of Mat 19:28<\/span> too literally. Others too have a right to those thrones, for they are spiritual not literal.<\/p>\n Note on the Apostle John.<\/p>\n <\/strong><\/p>\n Jesus’ words did not necessarily mean that John would be martyred. It was a baptism of suffering that He spoke of rather than a baptism of death. He was saying that both would have to endure overwhelming trial and tribulation for His sake.<\/p>\n In fact the evidence suggesting that John was martyred is relatively slight. A 9th century chronicler George Hamartolos reproduced a statement contained in the History of Philip of Side (c450 AD) to the effect that Papias (mid-2nd century AD) asserted that both the sons of Zebedee met a violent death in fulfilment of the Lord’s prediction. But most scholars regard Philip of Side as an unreliable witness to Papias, and neither Acts nor the historian Eusebius mention the fact, which would be surprising if it were true.<\/p>\n The only supporting evidence is a Syriac martyrology written c.400 AD in which the entry on 27th December is ‘John and James the Apostles at Jerusalem’. But a calendar from Carthage dated 505 AD reads for 27th December ‘John the Baptist and James the Apostle whom Herod killed’. However as the calendar also commemorates John the Baptist on 24th June those who argue for the Apostle John’s martyrdom suggest that the calendar made a mistake on 27th December and should have read John the Apostle. But there is no reason why the calendar should not preserve two old traditions concerning the death of John the Baptist, and while a switch from John the Baptist to John the Apostle, when being paired with James, is easily understandable, a switch the other way seems very unlikely.<\/p>\n And, however we read the above doubtful evidence, none fix a date for John’s supposed martyrdom, only saying it was in Jerusalem. Had it been at the same time as James, Acts would have mentioned it.<\/p>\n But the far stronger evidence says that John died in old age in Ephesus. Polycrates, bishop of Ephesus (190 AD) said that John ‘who reclined on the Lord’s breast’, after being ‘a witness (martus) and a teacher’, ‘fell asleep at Ephesus’. Irenaeus also, who knew Polycarp who was born in 70 AD, who used to tell him what he had heard from John’s lips and from the lips of the other disciples, writing around the same time as Polycrates said that John ‘issued the Gospel’ in Ephesus and confuted the heretics, refusing to remain under the same roof as that enemy of truth, Cerinthus, and that he lingered on until the days of Trajan (98-117 AD). Jerome also repeated the tradition that John remained at Ephesus into extreme old age. Other evidence is known which also linked John with Papias and with Ephesus e.g. the second prologue to John’s Gospel found in a tenth century AD manuscript of the Latin vulgate which was clearly based on much earlier evidence. It is possibly a little surprising that Ignatius of Antioch (110 AD) does not mention the fact of his residence at Ephesus but an argument from silence is dangerous, especially as he may have favoured Paul.<\/p>\n End of note.<\/p>\n 39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: <\/p>\n<\/p>\n <\/strong><\/p>\n Ver. 39. Ye shall indeed drink of the cup<\/strong> ] But not of that bitter cup of his Father’s wrath, which he drank off in his passion. Only the saints fill up that which is behind of the sufferings of Christ, Col 1:24<\/span> , , non<\/em> .<\/p>\n<\/p>\n Ye shall be baptized<\/strong> ] And come out of the waters of affliction with as little hurt as a babe doth out of the water in baptism, by the help of divine grace. <\/p>\n We can = We are able. And they were able, by grace. James (Act 12:2); and John, if, according to tradition, he died in boiling oil. <\/p>\n We: Mar 14:31, Joh 13:37 <\/p>\n Ye: Mar 14:36, Mat 10:25, Joh 15:20, Joh 17:14, Act 12:2, Col 1:24, Rev 1:9 <\/p>\n Reciprocal: Mat 20:22 – baptized with the Joh 18:11 – the cup<\/p>\n 9<\/p>\n Without realizing what it meant, the disciples indicated they were ready to accept the cup and baptism. Even in a spiritual kingdom, such a cup and baptism as Jesus meant were to be expected, hence he told them they would have that experience.<\/p>\n And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 39. 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