{"id":4955,"date":"2022-09-24T00:55:02","date_gmt":"2022-09-24T05:55:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-deuteronomy-28\/"},"modified":"2022-09-24T00:55:02","modified_gmt":"2022-09-24T05:55:02","slug":"exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-deuteronomy-28","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-deuteronomy-28\/","title":{"rendered":"Exegetical and Hermeneutical Commentary of Deuteronomy 2:8"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 align='center'><b><i> And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Ezion-gaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab. <\/i><\/b><\/h3>\n<p> <strong> 8<\/strong>. <em> So we passed by from our brethren<\/em>, etc.] The Heb. prep. <em> me&rsquo;eth<\/em> is <em> from with<\/em>; but probably we should read merely <em> &rsquo;eth<\/em> the sign of the accus.: <em> we crossed<\/em> or <em> passed through our brethren<\/em> (cp. 4 and 29). So LXX. Sam. readings are various.<\/p>\n<p><em> from the way of the Arabah<\/em> ] The &lsquo;Arabah itself forms in winter the most convenient passage from &rsquo;Elath and the Gulf of &lsquo;Aabah to the Dead Sea, with branch roads to ebron and Kerak; but suffers from want of water and great heat in summer. It was much used in the early Moslem period, and probably by Hebrew commerce with the Red Sea under the monarchy.<\/p>\n<p><em> Elath<\/em> ] A port on the N. end of the Gulf of &lsquo;Aabah (<span class='bible'>1Ki 9:26<\/span>; <span class='bible'>2Ki 14:22<\/span>), perhaps the same as El-Paran (<span class='bible'>Gen 14:6<\/span>). The name, translated by LXX Ailn, and probably meaning <em> palms<\/em>, has persisted. Strabo, XVI. iv. 4, Ailana; Josephus, Ailana, Ilanis and Elathous (&lsquo;now called Berenice&rsquo;?); Ptolemy, Elana; the Christian Fathers, Aila and Ailia; Moslem Geographers, Wailah, Aila and &lsquo;Aabat Aila (Idrisi, <em> ZDPV<\/em>, viii. 121); now el-&lsquo;Aabah, a village amid ancient ruins on the N.E. corner of the Gulf, with Turkish fort and garrison. To the N.W. is a large grove of palms with numerous ruins, called la (Robinson, <em> B.R.<\/em> i. 250 ff.; Doughty <em> Ar. Des.<\/em> i. 44 f.; Musil, <em> Edom<\/em>, i. 256, 259 f.; &lsquo;the culture of the palm flourishes  the types of the settled families are quite Jewish&rsquo;). In Greek times it gave its name to the Gulf as its successor &lsquo;Aabah does to-day.<\/p>\n<p><em> Ezion-geber<\/em> ] Beside Elath on the Red Sea in Edom&rsquo;s land; there Solomon built ships, <span class='bible'>1Ki 9:26<\/span>, and a ship (so LXX) of Jehoshaphat was wrecked, <span class='bible'>1Ki 22:49<\/span>. LXX   , and   , <span class='bible'>1Ki 9:26<\/span>, probably <em> waters of &lsquo;Eion-Geber<\/em>. Eusebius states that in his day it was  (Jerome Essia); Makrizi, 15th century, &lsquo;a once important town &lsquo;Ain.&rsquo; Robinson ( <em> B. R<\/em>. i. 251) noted the corresponding consonants in the name W. Ghain, and Musil ( <em> Edom<\/em>, i. 254, 2. 183 ff., 189) describes the oasis Ma&rsquo; Ghain in the &lsquo;Arabah. This lies 18 miles N. of the Sea; while the O.T. data place &lsquo;Eion-Geber beside Elath, whose site, as we have seen, is certainly on the present N.E. coast of the Gulf. Musil, however, reports that a tongue of the sea may once have reached Ma&rsquo; Ghain; there are remains of fortifications and gardens across what is now desert (II. 199). His guide told of a town there whose inhabitants had many ships; but a violent rain brought down such masses of stone from some of the wdies that the sea was pushed back to el-&lsquo;Aaba (ii. 187). If the Ar. name be derived from the tree <em> ghaa&rsquo;<\/em>, abundant in this region, it may have been attached to more places than one; or may have drifted as names easily do in Syria. The likeness between the LXX  and Musil&rsquo;s Ma&rsquo; Ghain is noteworthy. The meaning of the second half of &lsquo;Eion-geber is uncertain, the transliteration of Josephus .  (viii. <em> Ant.<\/em> iv. 4) may be due to confusion with  , i.e. Edom or Mt Se&lsquo;r.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> <strong> 8<\/strong> <em> b<\/em>. <em> And we turned<\/em> ] See <span class='bible'>Deu 1:7<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><em> and passed by the way of<\/em> ] Rather, <strong> crossed<\/strong> (the land of Edom) <strong> in the direction of<\/strong>. Having come up N.E. by the W. el &rsquo;Ithm to the plateau they would <em> turn<\/em> due N. as the Hajj route does towards Moab.<\/p>\n<p><em> the wilderness of Moab<\/em> ] More exactly JE, <span class='bible'>Num 21:11<\/span>: <em> the w. which is before Moab towards the sunrising<\/em>. For this region, see Doughty, <em> Ar. Des.<\/em> I; Musil, <em> Moab, passim<\/em>, full descriptions with map. Israel kept so far E. not only to avoid the fertile and settled districts of Edom and Moab, but for the same reason also as the Hajj does, so as not to have to cross the lower stretches of the great canon between Edom and Moab, the present Wdy el-sa or &rsquo;Asa. These lower stretches are deep, the sides steep and the roads over them difficult for laden caravans. The route of the Hajj, apparently that of Israel, crosses the much shallower head of this Wdy on the desert border. Once over it they were in the wilderness E. of Moab. Probably in the Wdy itself lay their station <em> &lsquo;Iy ha-&lsquo;<\/em> <em> A<\/em> <em> barim on the border of Moab<\/em>, P, <span class='bible'>Num 21:11<\/span> <em> a<\/em>; cp. <span class='bible'>Num 33:44<\/span>. For here lie still cairns or stone-heaps known by the same name, placed to show the way across the damp, sunken soil. This tempts one to emend &lsquo;Iy ha-&lsquo; A barim, usually interpreted as <em> heaps of the regions across<\/em> Jordan (cp. <em> Mts of the &lsquo;Abarim<\/em>), to distinguish the place from &lsquo;Iym and &lsquo;Ai in W. Palestine, to &lsquo;Iy-ha-&lsquo;Ob e rim, <em> heaps of the passengers<\/em>.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> 8 <em> b<\/em> 15. Arrival on the Border of Moab<\/p>\n<p> Israel, having crossed Edom from the &lsquo;Arabah towards the wilderness of Moab (8 <em> b<\/em>), is charged not to treat Moab as a foe. Jehovah gave &lsquo;Ar, their land, to the children of Lot: this is in Sg. address (9); and there follow notes on the predecessors of Moab in &lsquo;Ar, and of Edom in Mt Se&lsquo;r (10 12). The Pl. is resumed in a charge to Israel to cross the Wdy Zered, which they did (13); their time from adesh to the Zered being 38 years, and all the condemned generation being now dead under Jehovah&rsquo;s hand (14 f.).<\/p>\n<p> For the parallels in JE and P (some of which have been already given) see below on the separate verses.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P STYLE=\"text-indent: 0.75em\">Elath (Akaba) is at the northern extremity of the eastern arm of the Red Sea, and gives to that arm the name of the Elanitic Gulf. The name means trees; and is still justified by the grove of palm-trees at Akaba.<\/P><\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Albert Barnes&#8217; Notes on the Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P> <B>Ezion-gaber; <\/B>of which see <span class='bible'>Num 33:35<\/span>, which may be either that place upon the Red Sea, <span class='bible'>1Ki 9:26<\/span>, or another of the same name. <\/P> <P><B>We turned, <\/B>to wit, from our direct road which lay through Edoms land. <\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: English Annotations on the Holy Bible by Matthew Poole<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P><B>8-18. we passed . . . through theway of the plain<\/B>the Arabah or great valley, from Elath(&#8220;trees&#8221;) (the Ailah of the Greeks and Romans). The site ofit is marked by extensive mounds of rubbish. <\/P><P>       <B>Ezion-geber<\/B>now Akaba,both were within the territory of Edom; and after making a circuit ofits southeastern boundary, the Israelites reached the border of Moabon the southeast of the Salt Sea. They had been forbidden by divinecommand to molest the Moabites in any way; and this special honor wasconferred on that people not on their own account, for they were verywicked, but in virtue of their descent from Lot. (See on <span class='bible'>De23:3<\/span>). Their territory comprised the fine country on the south,and partly on the north of the Arnon. They had won it by their armsfrom the original inhabitants, the Emims, a race, terrible, as theirname imports, for physical power and stature (<span class='bible'>Ge14:5<\/span>), in like manner as the Edomites had obtained theirsettlement by the overthrow of the original occupiers of Seir, theHorims (<span class='bible'>Ge 14:6<\/span>), who weretroglodytes, or dwellers in caves. Moses alluded to thesecircumstances to encourage his countrymen to believe that God wouldmuch more enable them to expel the wicked and accursed Canaanites. Atthat time, however, the Moabites, having lost the greater part oftheir possessions through the usurpations of Sihon, were reduced tothe small but fertile region between the Zered and the Arnon.<\/P><\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Jamieson, Fausset and Brown&#8217;s Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible <\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong>And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Self<\/strong>,&#8230;. Along their coasts, by the borders of their country:<\/p>\n<p><strong>through the way of the plain<\/strong>; the wilderness of Zin, where Kadesh was:<\/p>\n<p><strong>from Elath and Eziongeber<\/strong>; the two ports on the shore of the Red sea in the land of Edom; it was from the latter they came to Kadesh; see<\/p>\n<p> <span class='bible'>Nu 33:35<\/span>. Elath was ten miles from Petra, the metropolis of Edom, to the east of it, as Jerom says z; it is by Josephus a called Aelana, and by the Septuagint here Ailon; from whence the Elanitic bay has its name; he speaks of it as not far from Eziongeber, which he says was then called Berenice:<\/p>\n<p><strong>we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab<\/strong>; the wilderness which is before Moab, towards the sun rising or the east, <span class='bible'>Nu 21:11<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>z De loc. Heb. fol. 91. E. a Antiqu. l. 8. c. 6. sect. 4.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Gill&#8217;s Exposition of the Entire Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8 And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Ezion-gaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab. &nbsp; 9 And the <B>LORD<\/B> said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land <I>for<\/I> a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot <I>for<\/I> a possession. &nbsp; 10 The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; &nbsp; 11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims. &nbsp; 12 The Horims also dwelt in Seir beforetime; but the children of Esau succeeded them, when they had destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which the <B>LORD<\/B> gave unto them. &nbsp; 13 Now rise up, <I>said I,<\/I> and get you over the brook Zered. And we went over the brook Zered. &nbsp; 14 And the space in which we came from Kadesh-barnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, <I>was<\/I> thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the <B>LORD<\/B> sware unto them. &nbsp; 15 For indeed the hand of the <B>LORD<\/B> was against them, to destroy them from among the host, until they were consumed. &nbsp; 16 So it came to pass, when all the men of war were consumed and dead from among the people, &nbsp; 17 That the <B>LORD<\/B> spake unto me, saying, &nbsp; 18 Thou art to pass over through Ar, the coast of Moab, this day: &nbsp; 19 And <I>when<\/I> thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon <I>any<\/I> possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot <I>for<\/I> a possession. &nbsp; 20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims; &nbsp; 21 A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the <B>LORD<\/B> destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead: &nbsp; 22 As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day: &nbsp; 23 And the Avims which dwelt in Hazerim, <I>even<\/I> unto Azzah, the Caphtorims, which came forth out of Caphtor, destroyed them, and dwelt in their stead.)<\/P> <P> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; It is observable here that Moses, speaking of the Edomites (<span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 8<\/span>), calls them, &#8220;<I>our brethren, the children of Esau.<\/I>&#8221; Though they had been unkind to Israel, in refusing them a peaceable passage through their country, yet he calls them brethren. For, though our relations fail in their duty to us, we must retain a sense of the relation, and not be wanting in our duty to them, as there is occasion. Now in these verses we have,<\/P> <P> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I. The account which Moses gives of the origin of the nations of which he had here occasion to speak, the Moabites, Edomites, and Ammonites. We know very well, from other parts of his history, whose posterity they were; but here he tells us how they came to those countries in which Israel found them; they were not the <I>aborigines,<\/I> or first planters. But, 1. The Moabites dwelt in a country which had belonged to a numerous race of giants, called <I>Emim<\/I> (that is, <I>terrible ones<\/I>), as tall as the Anakim, and perhaps more fierce, <span class='bible'>Deu 2:10<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Deu 2:11<\/span>. 2. The Edomites in like manner dispossessed the Horim from Mount Seir, and took their country (<span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 12<\/span>. and again <span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 22<\/span>), of which we read, <span class='bible'>Gen. xxxvi. 20<\/span>. 3. The Ammonites likewise got possession of a country that had formerly been inhabited by giants, called <I>Zamzummim, crafty men,<\/I> or <I>wicked men<\/I> (<span class='bible'>Deu 2:20<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Deu 2:21<\/span>), probably the same that are called <I>Zuzim,<\/I><span class='bible'><I> Gen. xiv. 5<\/I><\/span>. He illustrates these remarks by an instance older than any of these; the Caphtorim (who were akin to the Philistines, <span class='bible'>Gen. x. 14<\/span>) drove the Avim out of their country, and took possession of it, <span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 23<\/span>. The learned bishop Patrick supposes these Avites, being expelled hence, to have settled in Assyria, and to be the same people we read of under that name, <span class='bible'>2 Kings xvii. 31<\/span>. Now these revolutions are recorded, (1.) To show how soon the world was peopled after the flood, so well peopled that, when a family grew numerous, they could not find a place to settle in, at least in that part of the world, but they must drive out those that were already settled. (2.) To show that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. Giants were expelled by those of ordinary stature; for probably these giants, like those before the flood (<span class='bible'>Gen. vi. 4<\/span>), were notorious for impiety and oppression, which brought the judgments of God upon them, against which their great strength would be on defence. (3.) To show what uncertain things worldly possessions are, and how often they change their owners; it was so of old, and ever will be so. Families decline, and from them estates are transferred to families that increase; so little constancy or continuance is there in these things. (4.) To encourage the children of Israel, who were now going to take possession of Canaan, against the difficulties they would meet with, and to show the unbelief of those that were afraid of the sons of Anak, to whom the giants, here said to be conquered, are compared, <span class='bible'>Deu 2:11<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Deu 2:21<\/span>. If the providence of God had done this for the Moabites and Ammonites, much more would his promise do it for Israel his peculiar people.<\/P> <P> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; II. The advances which Israel made towards Canaan. They <I>passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab<\/I> (<span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 8<\/span>), and then went over the brook or vale of Zered (<span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 13<\/span>), and there Moses takes notice of the fulfilling of the word which God had spoken concerning them, that none of those that were numbered at Mount Sinai should see the land that God had promised, <span class='bible'>Num. xiv. 23<\/span>. According to that sentence, now that they began to set their faces towards Canaan, and to have it in their eye, notice is taken of their being all destroyed and consumed, and not a man of them left, <span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 14<\/span>. Common providence, we may observe, in about thirty-eight years, ordinarily raises a new generation, so that in that time few remain of the old one; but here it was entirely new, and none at all remained but Caleb and Joshua: <I>for indeed the hand of the Lord was against them,<\/I><span class='_0000ff'><I><U><span class='bible'> v.<\/span><span class='bible'> 15<\/span><\/U><\/I><\/span>. Those cannot but waste, until they were consumed, who have the hand of God against them. Observe, Israel is not called to engage with the Canaanites till all the men of war, the veteran regiments, that had been used to hardship, and had learned the art of war from the Egyptians, <I>were consumed and dead from among the people<\/I> (<span class='bible'><I>v.<\/I><\/span><span class='bible'> 16<\/span>), that the conquest of Canaan, being effected by a host of new-raised men, trained up in a wilderness, the excellency of the power might the more plainly appear to be <I>of God and not of men.<\/I><\/P> <P> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; III. The caution given them not to meddle with the Moabites or Ammonites, whom they must not disseize, nor so much as disturb in their possessions: <I>Distress them not, nor contend with them,<\/I><span class='_0000ff'><I><U><span class='bible'> v.<\/span><span class='bible'> 9<\/span><\/U><\/I><\/span>. Though the Moabites aimed to ruin Israel (<span class='bible'>Num. xxii. 6<\/span>), yet Israel must not aim to ruin them. If others design us a mischief, this will not justify us in designing them a mischief. But why must not the Moabites and Ammonites be meddled with? 1. Because they were the <I>children of Lot<\/I> (<span class='bible'>Deu 2:9<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Deu 2:19<\/span>), righteous Lot, who kept his integrity in Sodom. Note, Children often fare the better in this world for the piety of their ancestors: the seed of the upright, though they degenerate, yet are blessed with temporal good things. 2. Because the land they were possessed of was what God had given them, and he did not design it for Israel. Even wicked men have a right to their worldly possessions, and must not be wronged. The tares are allowed their place in the field, and must not be rooted out until the harvest. God gives and preserves outward blessings to wicked men, to show that these are not the best things, but he has better in store for his own children.<\/P><\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Matthew Henry&#8217;s Whole Bible Commentary<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong>Verses 8-15:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Israel&#8217;s trek from Kadesh to Zered (Zared) by way of the Plain of Elath and Ezion-gaber is traced in <span class='bible'>Num 20:1<\/span> to <span class='bible'>Num 21:12<\/span>, q.v.<\/p>\n<p>The present text notes God&#8217;s instructions concerning Moab, similar to those concerning Edom.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Emim, <\/strong>meaning &#8220;frightful,&#8221; a race of powerful giants, so named because of their frightful appearance. They were numbered with the Rephaim, but were called &#8220;Emim&#8221; by the Moabites. The Rephaim appear to be the generic name of certain giant Canaanite tribes, see <span class='bible'>Gen 14:5<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Gen 15:20<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style='margin-left:1.165em'><strong>Anakim, <\/strong>see <span class='bible'>Deu 1:28<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Horim, from hor, <\/strong>&#8220;mountain,&#8221; apparently a tribe of cave-dwellers, who lived in the mountain caves in the territory of Edom. Nothing is known of their origin.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Men of war,&#8221; verse 14, those men of military age, twenty years old and upward, see <span class='bible'>Num 1:3<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Num 14:28-29<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Garner-Howes Baptist Commentary<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>5. PASSING THROUGH MOAB (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:8-15<\/span>)<\/p>\n<p>And we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab. 9 And Jehovah said unto me, Vex not Moab, neither contend with them in battle; for I will not give thee of this land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession. 10 (The Emim dwelt therein aforetime, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakim: 11 these also are accounted Rephaim, as the Anakim; but the Moabites call them Emim. 12 The Horites also dwelt in Seir aforetime, bur the children of Esau succeeded them; and they destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which Jehovah gave unto them.) 13 Now rise up, and get you over the brook Zered. And we went over the brook Zered. 14 And the days in which we came from Kadesh-barnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, were thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were consumed from the midst of the camp, as Jehovah sware unto them, 15 Moreover the hand of Jehovah was against them, to destroy them from the midst of the camp, until they were consumed.<\/p>\n<p>THOUGHT QUESTIONS 2:815<\/p>\n<p>39.<\/p>\n<p>From whence came the Moabites? Cf. <span class='bible'>Gen. 19:30-38<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>40.<\/p>\n<p>There are three names for giants; what are they?<\/p>\n<p>41.<\/p>\n<p>What and where is Ar?<\/p>\n<p>42.<\/p>\n<p>Compare <span class='bible'>Num. 13:33<\/span> with <span class='bible'>Deu. 2:10<\/span> and state the significance.<\/p>\n<p>43.<\/p>\n<p>How did Moses know of this history of the Rephaim and Horites?<\/p>\n<p>44.<\/p>\n<p>Is there a time when the mercy of God ends and judgment begins? At what point?<\/p>\n<p>AMPLIFIED TRANSLATION 2:915<\/p>\n<p>9 And the Lord said to me, Do not trouble or assault Moab or contend with them in battle, for I will not give you any of their land for a possession, because I have given Ar to the sons of Lot for a possession.<br \/>10 (The Emim dwelt there in times past, a people great and many, and tall as the Anakim;<br \/>11 These also are known as Rephaim [of giant stature], as are the Anakim, but the Moabites call them Emim.<br \/>12 The Horites also formely lived in Seir, but the sons of Esau dispossessed them and destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did to the land of their possession, which the Lord gave to them.)<br \/>13 Now rise up, and go over the brook Zered. So we went over the brook Zered.<br \/>14 And the time from our leaving Kadesh-barnea until we had come over the brook Zered was thirty-eight years, until the whole generation of the men of war had perished from the camp, as the Lord had sworn to them.<br \/>15 Moreover the hand of the Lord was against them, to exterminate them from the midst of the camp, until they were all gone.<\/p>\n<p>COMMENT 2:815<\/p>\n<p><span class='bible'>Num. 21:10-13<\/span> supplies us with a geographical link between this passage and the former. And the children of Israel journeyed, and encamped in Oboth (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:10<\/span>). Oboth (meaning water skins) is located near the south end of the Dead Sea and east of Edom. After Oboth they encamped at Iye-abarim (Literally, ruins of Abarim) in the wilderness which is before Moab, toward the sunrising (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:11<\/span>). <span class='bible'>Num. 33:44<\/span> simply refers to the latter station as in the border of Moab.<\/p>\n<p>VEX NOT MOAB (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:9<\/span>)Moab and Ammon were the incestuous sons of Lot, Abrahams nephew, (<span class='bible'>Gen. 11:27-28<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Gen. 19:30-38<\/span>). Thus as in <span class='bible'>Deu. 2:8<\/span> the Edomites as our brethren the children of Esau (because Esau was Jacobs brother) were not to be molested, so here the children of Lot, whom God had given this land, were not to be attacked in battle.<\/p>\n<p>BECAUSE I HAVE GIVEN AR UNTO THE CHILDREN OF LOT FOR A POSSESSION (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:9<\/span>)In <span class='bible'>Deu. 2:18<\/span> Ar is called the border of Moab, and is apparently the city of Moab, <span class='bible'>Num. 22:36<\/span>, where we have the additional statement, which is on the border of the Arnon which is in the utmost part of the [eastern] border. Ar of Moab (<span class='bible'>Num. 21:28<\/span>, <span class='bible'>Isa. 15:1<\/span>) was a leading city on the upper reaches of the Arnon river, It appears from both this context and the various happenings in the closing chapters of Numbers, that at this period the northern boundary of Moab extended along the northeast shore of the Dead Sea to the mouth of the Jordan (<span class='bible'>Num. 33:49<\/span>). They are still in the plains of Moab and the land of Moab as Deuteronomy closes (<span class='bible'>Deu. 34:1<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Deu. 34:5-8<\/span>).<\/p>\n<p>THE EMIM DWELT THEREIN AFORETIME, A PEOPLE GREAT, AND MANY, AND TALL, AS THE ANAKIM: THESE ALSO ARE ACCOUNTED REPHAIM, AS THE ANAKIM: BUT THE MOABITES CALLED THEM EMIM, (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:10-11<\/span>)The Rephaim, an ancient race of large stature, dwelt in quite an extensive area surrounding the Dead Sea. The Moabites called them Emim, but the Ammonites called them Zamzummim (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:20<\/span>). We first encounter them in the siege of Chedorlaomer (<span class='bible'>Gen. 14:5<\/span>), and God had pledged their land to Abrahams seed (<span class='bible'>Gen. 15:18-21<\/span>). The word is rendered giant with reference to Goliath in <span class='bible'>1Ch. 20:4<\/span>. It appears that the Emm, the Anakim, and the Rephaim, were probably the same people, called by different names in the different countries where they dwelt; for they appear originally to have been a kind of wandering free-booters, who lived by plunder.Clarke<\/p>\n<p>Such persons had originally struck terror into the heart of the spies and then the people (<span class='bible'>Num. 13:33<\/span>). But now Israel goes forth to conquer the same gigantic race!<\/p>\n<p>THE HORITES ALSO DWELT IN SEIR AFORETIME, BUT THE CHILDREN OF ESAU SUCCEEDED THEM . . . AS ISRAEL DID UNTO THE LAND OF HIS POSSESSION, WHICH JEHOVAH GAVE UNTO THEM (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:12<\/span>If Moses wrote these words on the plains of Moab as stated in <span class='bible'>Deu. 1:1<\/span> (cf. <span class='bible'>Deu. 34:1<\/span>; see also <span class='bible'>Deu. 31:9<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Deu. 31:24<\/span>), there is no need to suppose this passage to be the work of some editor or redactor. But even if this, and other brief historical passages we will meet in this book, be the work of a later editor, the inspiration and veracity of Deuteronomy is not altered one iota. It was universally accepted by the Jews that Ezra was the writer of these historical notes, and he was just as inspired as Moses.[19]<\/p>\n<p>[19] See the article on the authorship at the conclusion of this volume.<\/p>\n<p>Israel had, indeed by that time dispossessed many of the native inhabitants east of the Jordan. And Israel took all these cities: and Israel dwelt in all of the cities of the Amorites, in Heshbon, and in all the towns thereof . . . So they smote him [Sihon, king of the Amorites at Heshbon], and his sons and all his people, until there was none left him remaining: and they possessed his land (<span class='bible'>Num. 21:25<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Num. 21:35<\/span>).<\/p>\n<p>AND WE WENT OVER THE BROOK ZERED (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:13<\/span>)Later, the natural boundary between Edom and Moab, flowing northwesterly into the Dead Sea at its southern extremity.<\/p>\n<p>AND THE DAYS IN WHICH WE CAME FROM KADESH-BARNEA, UNTIL WE WERE COME OVER THE BROOK ZERED, WERE THIRTY AND EIGHT YEARS; UNTIL ALL THE GENERATION OF THE MEN OF WAR WERE CONSUMED (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:14<\/span>)That is, from their first visit at Kadesh, mentioned in <span class='bible'>Deu. 1:19<\/span>. See notes under <span class='bible'>Deu. 1:46<\/span> and <span class='bible'>Deu. 2:1<\/span>. It had only been a matter of months from their second visit to that place, for their second arrival was in the first month of the fortieth year (<span class='bible'>Num. 20:1<\/span>). After that, Miriam died (mourned for thirty days?), the incident at Meribah takes place, and Israel is refused passage through Edom (<span class='bible'>Num. 20:2-21<\/span>). Then they journeyed from Kadesh (<span class='bible'>Num. 20:22<\/span>), stopping soon at Mount Hor, where Aaron died and was mourned for thirty days (<span class='bible'>Num. 20:22-29<\/span>). His death was on the first day of the fifth month of the fortieth year (<span class='bible'>Num. 33:38<\/span>). Then follows a victory over the Canaanite king Arad (<span class='bible'>Num. 21:1-3<\/span>), the discouraging trip around mount Seir just mentioned (which includes the Brazen Serpent incident) and finally their arrival at the Zered river. And by the time Moses begins this discourse just east of the Jordan, it is the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month (<span class='bible'>Deu. 1:3<\/span>). Thus though we do not know how long a time is covered by the many days of <span class='bible'>Deu. 2:1<\/span>, we do know that from Aarons death and mourning period (40th year, 6th month) till their arrival at the Zered river was a period of six months.<\/p>\n<p>MOREOVER, THE HAND OF JEHOVAH WAS AGAINST THEM (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:15<\/span>)That is, his decree (that the numbered Israelites be destroyed) was to be fulfilled before Israel could enter their promised country. All the men of war were dead by the time they crossed the northeastern border of Moab (<span class='bible'>Deu. 2:16-18<\/span>).<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: College Press Bible Study Textbook Series<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>(8) <strong>When we passed . . . from . . . Esau . . . through the way of the plain from Elath.<\/strong>The route from Seir, after Esaus refusal, was <em>southward <\/em>to Ezion-geber, at the head of the Gulf of Akabah, and Elath, a few miles south-east of Ezion-geber, on the same coast. They then <em>turned northward, <\/em>and going round the territory of Edom, reached the country of Moab.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Ellicott&#8217;s Commentary for English Readers (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> <strong> 8<\/strong>. <strong> <\/strong> <strong> The way of the plain <\/strong> The Arabah. <\/p>\n<p><strong> From Elath and Elzion-gaber <\/strong> See <span class='bible'>Num 33:35<\/span>. Both places are mentioned in <span class='bible'>1Ki 9:26<\/span>. They were on the AElanitic Gulf. <\/p>\n<p><strong> The wilderness of Moab <\/strong> Comp. <span class='bible'>Jdg 11:16-18<\/span>.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Whedon&#8217;s Commentary on the Old and New Testaments<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> <strong> The Children of Israel Pass Through Moab <\/strong> In <span class='bible'>Deu 2:8-12<\/span> Moses rehearses Israel&rsquo;s journey through Moab.<\/p>\n<p> <span class='bible'><strong> Deu 2:9<\/strong><\/span> <strong> &nbsp;And the LORD said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.<\/p>\n<p> <span class='bible'>Deu 2:9<\/span><\/strong> <strong><em> Comments &#8211; <\/em><\/strong> Ar is given to the Moabites. They disposed the Emims (<span class='bible'>Deu 2:11<\/span>).<\/p>\n<p> <span class='bible'><strong> Deu 2:12<\/strong><\/span> <strong> &nbsp;The Horims also dwelt in Seir beforetime; but the children of Esau succeeded them, when they had destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which the LORD gave unto them.<\/p>\n<p> <span class='bible'><strong> Deu 2:12<\/strong><\/span><\/strong> <strong> <\/strong> <strong><em> Comments &#8211; <\/em><\/strong> The Edomites were given a successful conquest for their land, a conquest that was similar to the children of Israel&#8217;s conquest, and similar to the conquest of the Ammonites (<span class='bible'>Deu 2:21-22<\/span>). <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Everett&#8217;s Study Notes on the Holy Scriptures<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> Was not Esau, Jacob&#8217;s brother? saith the LORD, <span class='bible'>Mal 1:2<\/span> . Yes! he was. And doth GOD distinguish now between men that are brethren in nature, and form them without alliance in grace? Hath he done so by you, Reader? Pause over the enquiry. And while, like Moses and the people, you turn away, and pass from the borders of nature, learn to look up with increasing astonishment, wonder, and praise, every step you take at the distinguishing tokens of grace.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Hawker&#8217;s Poor Man&#8217;s Commentary (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>NASB (UPDATED) TEXT: Deu 2:8-15<\/p>\n<p> 8So we passed beyond our brothers the sons of Esau, who live in Seir, away from the Arabah road, away from Elath and from Ezion-geber. And we turned and passed through by the way of the wilderness of Moab. 9Then the LORDsaid to me, &#8216;Do not harass Moab, nor provoke them to war, for I will not give you any of their land as a possession, because I have given Ar to the sons of Lot as a possession. 10(The Emim lived there formerly, a people as great, numerous, and tall as the Anakim. 11Like the Anakim, they are also regarded as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim. 12The Horites formerly lived in Seir, but the sons of Esau dispossessed them and destroyed them from before them and settled in their place, just as Israel did to the land of their possession which the LORDgave to them.) 13Now arise and cross over the brook Zered yourselves.&#8217; So we crossed over the brook Zered. 14Now the time that it took for us to come from Kadesh-barnea until we crossed over the brook Zered was thirty-eight years, until all the generation of the men of war perished from within the camp, as the LORD had sworn to them. 15Moreover the hand of the LORD was against them, to destroy them from within the camp until they all perished.<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:8 So we passed beyond our brothers, the sons of Esau who live in Seir This use of brothers is somewhat ironic. They were kin. They did come from the same ancestors, Isaac and Rebekah, but they were acting like anything except relatives.<\/p>\n<p>Seir refers to the mountain range in the country of Edom. So Seir and Edom are synonymous.<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:8; Deu 2:27 Arabah road This refers to the Kings Highway, from the Gulf of Aqaba to Damascus (cf. Deu 2:1 and Num 20:17; Num 20:19; Num 21:22).<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:8 Elath This is literally palm trees (BDB 19). This is probably close to Ezion-geber (cf. 1Ki 9:26), which is at the northern end of the Gulf of Aqaba.<\/p>\n<p> the way of the wilderness of Moab The Macmillan Bible Atlas, map 10, shows this desert road as parallel to the King&#8217;s Highway, but to the east. The southern end passes through Edom and is known as the way of the wilderness of Edom (cf. 2Ki 3:8). The King&#8217;s Highway and this smaller desert road meet at Rabbath-bene-ammon, which is to the east of Jericho.<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:9 Do not harass Moab, nor provoke them to war This is parallel to Deu 2:5 about Edom. The terms are different, but the thought is the same.<\/p>\n<p>Both of the VERBS are JUSSIVES:<\/p>\n<p>1. harass (BDB 849 III, KB 1015, Qal JUSSIVE, cf. Exo 23:22; Est 8:11)<\/p>\n<p>2. provoke (BDB 173, KB 202, Hithpael JUSSIVE, Deu 2:19; Deu 2:24; Pro 28:4; Dan 11:10)<\/p>\n<p> Ar This is either a reference to Moab in general or its capital city (cf. Num 21:15; Num 21:28; Deu 2:9; Deu 2:18; Deu 2:29; Isa 15:1). It was located on the left bank of the Arnon River.<\/p>\n<p> sons of Lot as a possession See Gen 19:37-38.<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:10-12 These verses are an editorial comment, as are Deu 2:20-23; Deu 3:9; Deu 3:11; Deu 3:13-14. The following are all terms for giants: (1) Emim (Deu 2:10-11); (2) Anakim (v.10,11,21); and (3) Rephaim (Deu 2:11; Deu 2:20). These terms can mean either (a) large or tall in size; (b) of a particular ethnic origin; or (c) later in Isaiah and ,Jeremiah, it is used for the realm of the dead. Here it probably refers to size. See Special Topic: Terms Used for Tall\/Powerful Warriors or People Groups (Giants) .<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:12 Horites There is some debate concerning the relation between the Horites (BDB 360) and the Hurrians (ABD, vol. 3, pp. 335-338). I do not think that they are the same (ABD, vol. 3, p. 288). I believe there were two different peoples, although there is no way to be dogmatic (NET Bible, p. 348 #5). The Horites were a tribal group that lived in the region of Edom\/Seir before Edom was a nation (cf. Gen 14:6; Gen 36:20-30).<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:13 Now arise and cross over These two VERBS (BDB 877, KB 1086 and BDB 716, KB 778) are both Qal IMPERATIVES. YHWH is still telling Moses exactly what to do.<\/p>\n<p> brook Zered This is the name of a wadi between Moab and Edom (cf. Num 21:12). A wadi is a silt-filled ravine where water runs during the rainy season, a seasonal brook, not a river. The silt often forms a road. It formed the border between Edom and Moab.<\/p>\n<p>The meaning of the term Zered (BDB 279) is unknown.<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:14 Now the time that it took for us. . .was thirty-eight years This is a summary verse of the wilderness wandering period (cf. Deu 2:7).<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:14; Deu 2:16 all the generation of the men of war The men of war included every male between 20 and 50 years of age (cf. Exo 30:14; Exo 38:26; Num 1:3; Num 14:29). All of this evil unbelieving generation (i.e., lack of faith in YHWH&#8217;s promises) had to die (cf. Deu 2:15) before the younger Israelis could possess the Promised Land.<\/p>\n<p> as the LORD had sworn See Num 14:28-29; Deu 1:34-35.<\/p>\n<p>Deu 2:15 the hand of the LORD See Special Topic below.<\/p>\n<p>SPECIAL TOPIC: GOD DESCRIBED AS HUMAN (ANTHROPOMORPHISM) <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: You Can Understand the Bible: Study Guide Commentary Series by Bob Utley<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>passed by. Compare Num 20:21; Num 21:11-13. <\/p>\n<p>from Elath, &amp;c. Gulf of Akabah. Compare Num 33:35, Num 33:36, and 1Ki 9:26. <\/p>\n<p>wilderness of Moab. See the route, Jdg 11:16-18. <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Companion Bible Notes, Appendices and Graphics<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>And when: Num 20:20, Num 20:21, Jdg 11:18 <\/p>\n<p>Elath: 1Ki 9:26, Eloth, 2Ki 14:22, 2Ki 16:6 <\/p>\n<p>Reciprocal: Num 33:35 &#8211; Eziongaber Deu 1:2 &#8211; by the way 2Ch 8:17 &#8211; Eloth<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>Deu 2:8-9. We turned  From our direct road, which lay through Edom. Ar  The chief city of the Moabites, here put for the whole country which depended upon it. The children of Lot  So called to signify that this preservation was not for their sakes, for they were a wicked people, but for Lots sake, whose memory God yet honoured.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Joseph Bensons Commentary on the Old and New Testaments<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Ezion-gaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab. 8. 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