{"id":8088,"date":"2022-09-24T02:25:13","date_gmt":"2022-09-24T07:25:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-227\/"},"modified":"2022-09-24T02:25:13","modified_gmt":"2022-09-24T07:25:13","slug":"exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-227","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-227\/","title":{"rendered":"Exegetical and Hermeneutical Commentary of 2 Samuel 2:27"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 align='center'><b><i> And Joab said, [As] God liveth, unless thou hadst spoken, surely then in the morning the people had gone up every one from following his brother. <\/i><\/b><\/h3>\n<p> <strong> 27<\/strong>. <em> unless thou hadst spoken<\/em> ] Abner found fault with Joab for continuing the pursuit. Joab retorts that Abner himself was to blame for the commencement of the battle. <em> Unless thou hadst spoken<\/em> (<span class='bible'><em> 2Sa 2:14<\/em><\/span>), and challenged us to fight, <em> the armies might have separated this morning without coming to blows<\/em>. Joab believed that the civil war might have been avoided by timely negotiation. This explanation is the simplest, and fits the context best. Another way of taking it is, <em> Unless thou hadst spoken<\/em>, and asked for a cessation of hostilities, <em> then to-morrow morning<\/em>, but not before, <em> the people<\/em>, &amp;c.; i.e. Joab boasts that his compliance with Abner&rsquo;s request was no sign of weakness on his part, for he might have continued the pursuit until morning. But this meaning is less obvious, and less suitable as an answer to Abner.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P STYLE=\"text-indent: 0.75em\">Joabs speech means either unless thou hadst spoken (challenged us to fight, <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:14<\/span>), the people would have returned from the pursuit of their brethren (many hours ago, even) this morning; or, If thou hadst not spoken (asked for peace, <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:26<\/span>), surely the people would have returned, etc., in the morning, i. e. would not have ceased the pursuit until the morning. The latter interpretation is the more accordant with Joabs boastful character.<\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Albert Barnes&#8217; Notes on the Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P> Verse 27. <I><B>And Joab said<\/B><\/I>] The meaning of this verse appears to be this: If Abner had not provoked the battle, (see <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:14<\/span>), Joab would not have attacked the Israelites that day; as his orders were probably to act on the defensive. Therefore the blame fell upon Israel.<\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Adam Clarke&#8217;s Commentary and Critical Notes on the Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P> <B>Unless thou hadst spoken; <\/B>unless thou hadst made the motion that they might fight, <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:14<\/span>. It was thou, not I, that gave the first occasion of this fight. Withal, he intimates that Abner was the sole cause of this war; and that if he had not given commission and command, the war had never been undertaken, but all things had been ended by an amicable agreement; which might have been made that very morning, if he had so pleased. <\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: English Annotations on the Holy Bible by Matthew Poole<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong>And Joab said, as God liveth<\/strong>,&#8230;. Which was the form of an oath, swearing by the living God:<\/p>\n<p><strong>unless thou hadst spoken<\/strong>; that is, these words in <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:14<\/span>; &#8220;let the young men arise and play&#8221;, that he had not given the challenge to fight:<\/p>\n<p><strong>surely then in the morning the people had gone up everyone from following his brother<\/strong>; they would have gone away and never fought at all; they were not desirous of shedding their blood, and following after them to slay them: thus he lays the blame upon Abner, and makes him to be the cause and beginner of the war. Some render the particle by &#8220;if&#8221;, and give the sense, that if he had spoken what he last did sooner, the people would long before this time have desisted from pursuing them; for it was not from a thirst after their blood, and a desire to luke vengeance on them, that they pursued them, but to bring them to submission, and lay down their arms; for they could not in honour retreat until they desired it; but the former sense seems best, and is the general sense of the Jewish commentators.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Gill&#8217;s Exposition of the Entire Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> Joab replied, <em> &ldquo;If thou hadst not spoken <\/em> (i.e., challenged to single combat, <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:14<\/span>),<em> the people would have gone away in the morning, every one from his brother,&rdquo;<\/em> i.e., there would have been no such fratricidal conflict at all. The first  introduces the substance of the oath, as in <span class='bible'>1Sa 25:34<\/span>; the second gives greater force to it (vid., <em> Ewald<\/em>, 330, <em> b<\/em>.). Thus Joab threw all the blame of the fight upon Abner, because he had been the instigator of the single combat; and as that was not decisive, and was so bloody in its character, the two armies had felt obliged to fight it out. But he then commanded the trumpet to be blown for a halt, and the pursuit to be closed.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Keil &amp; Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>(27) <strong>Unless thou hadst spoken.<\/strong>Joabs reply to Abner admits of either of two interpretations: (1) Joab seeks to throw the whole blame of the conflict upon Abner, by saying that if he had not proposed the combat between the champions (<span class='bible'>2Sa. 2:14<\/span>) there would have been no battle, but the people of both sides would have separated peaceably at Gibeon; or (2), as the phrase is more generally and more probably under. stood, that Joab had intended to keep up the pursuit only until the following morning, but as Abner already sued for mercy, he was content, and would stop now.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Ellicott&#8217;s Commentary for English Readers (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> <strong> 27<\/strong>. <strong> <\/strong> <strong> Unless thou hadst spoken <\/strong> As thou didst this morning, saying, &ldquo;Let the young men arise and play.&rdquo; <span class='bible'>2Sa 2:14<\/span>. That challenge provoked the war. Had it not been uttered the two armies would have separated without fight or bloodshed.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Whedon&#8217;s Commentary on the Old and New Testaments<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong><em><span class='bible'>2Sa 2:27<\/span><\/em><\/strong><strong>. <\/strong><strong><em>And Joab said, as God liveth, <\/em><\/strong><strong>&amp;c.<\/strong> <em>&#8220;Unless thou hadst spoken, <\/em>probably means, <em>unless thou had said, let the young men, <\/em>&amp;c. <span class=''>2Sa 2:14<\/span> i.e. unless thou hadst provoked me to battle; <em>surely all the people had ceased from following their brethren even from the morning: <\/em>unless thou hadst drawn on the combat, there had been neither slaughter nor pursuit.&#8221; Cicero well observes of civil wars, that all things are miserable in them, but victory most miserable of all. Joab seems to have been very sensible of this, as he so readily withdrew his forces from the pursuit. <\/p>\n<p><strong>REFLECTIONS.<\/strong>1st, Abner&#8217;s forces being routed, he himself is compelled to fly for his life, but is closely pursued by Joab&#8217;s brother Asahel, whose swiftness was as the mountain roe: having singled him out, he sticks close to him, ambitious to make him his prisoner, and hoping thus to end the war, of which Abner was the chief support. It was nobly aimed, but he was an unequal match, and therefore pursued only his own ruin. <em>Note; <\/em>They who aim too high, stand on a precipice which makes their fall the deeper. Abner saw the young man&#8217;s ambition, and kindly admonished him of his danger, desiring him to seize some other prey, to which he might be equal; but, fired with ambition, he continues the pursuit, and perhaps imputes to timidity the friendly caution. Once more Abner begs him not to put him on the unwilling necessity of hurting him; for how should he then look his brother in the face, whom, though an enemy, he respected. The remonstrance was vain, Asahel persists, and rues his folly. Abner, as he advanced, gave him a mortal stroke, and he fell dead to the earth. <em>Note; <\/em>(1.) The qualifications that we are proud of commonly prove our ruin. (2.) When we are most eager in the pursuit of our worldly schemes, and seem ready to grasp the prize of happiness, death, like Abner&#8217;s spear, stops our career, and lays our big-swoln hopes and honour in the dust. <\/p>\n<p>2nd, The routed troops of Abner making a stand on the hill, being joined by some fresh forces from Benjamin, <br \/>1. Abner begs of Joab to stay the pursuit. He who made a sport of the sword in the morning, now dreads its devouring edge, and fain would have it return to the scabbard again; he pleads with Joab the near relation between the people; they were brethren; and if brother imbrued his hands in brother&#8217;s blood, whichever of them gained the day, the remembrance would be bitter: sound reasoning, but just a day too late; had he thus argued with himself before, the sword had not been drawn. But we can see that right when the case is our own, which pride and prejudice prevented us from discerning when our neighbour&#8217;s interest only was at stake. <br \/>2. Joab nobly agrees to the request: no doubt, his orders were to be sparing of blood, and therefore he lays the blame of what had been shed on Abner&#8217;s obstinacy, but for whose challenge they might have retired in the morning in peace. A retreat is now sounded, and Abner suffered to depart to Mahanaim, while Joab returns to his king at Hebron. Asahel receives all military honours, and is buried in the sepulchre of his fathers, but the rest on the field of battle. Thus terminates the first rencounter in favour of David, as a prelude to his greater future successes. <em>Note; <\/em>(1.) It is vain to struggle against the divine appointment. (2.) Though the clods of the valley are made more honourable to some than others, and they are distinguished in the grave, yet when they come again from thence, nobility will meet no distinction, and only the good be great on a resurrection-day. <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Commentary on the Holy Bible by Thomas Coke<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> 2Sa 2:27 And Joab said, [As] God liveth, unless thou hadst spoken, surely then in the morning the people had gone up every one from following his brother.<\/p>\n<p> Ver. 27. <strong> Unless thou hadst spoken,<\/strong> ] <em> q.d., <\/em> Thou mayest thank thyself for the hurt that is done: for thou first madest the challenge. <em> Aequum est ut faber quas fecit compedes ipse gestet.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Trapp&#8217;s Complete Commentary (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>God. Hebrew. Elohim. App-4. <\/p>\n<p>I (with Art.) spoken. Supply the Ellipsis (App-6) thus: &#8220;spoken [the words which caused the provocation], surely&#8221;. Compare 2Sa 2:14. <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Companion Bible Notes, Appendices and Graphics<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>As God: This was spoken in allusion to the proposal of Abner &#8211; 2Sa 2:14, which led to the slaughter of twelve young men of each party, and thus provoked the battle. It is probable, that Joab had orders simply to act on the defensive, and would not have attacked the Israelites that day unless compelled; therefore the blame lay upon Abner and Israel. 1Sa 25:26, Job 27:2 <\/p>\n<p>unless: 2Sa 2:14, Pro 15:1, Pro 17:14, Pro 20:18, Pro 25:8, Isa 47:7, Luk 14:31, Luk 14:32 <\/p>\n<p>in the morning: Heb. from the morning <\/p>\n<p>gone up: or, gone away <\/p>\n<p>Reciprocal: Jdg 9:38 &#8211; General Psa 133:1 &#8211; how good Gal 5:15 &#8211; General<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>2Sa 2:27. Unless thou hadst spoken, &amp;c.  Made the motion that they should fight, giving a rash challenge; surely in the morning the people had gone up  The armies had parted in peace, without any act of hostility: it was thou, not I, that gave the first occasion of this fight. This plainly shows that Joabs instructions were not to begin hostilities, and that Abner was the sole cause of the war. Had it not been for him, all things might have been settled by an amicable agreement that very morning. Some, however, understand Joabs words differently: they consider him as swearing solemnly, that inasmuch as Abner had given the challenge, and proposed fighting, if he had not also begun the parley for cessation, he and his men would have pursued him and Ish-bosheths vanquished army the whole night.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Joseph Bensons Commentary on the Old and New Testaments<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>2:27 And Joab said, [As] God liveth, unless thou hadst {o} spoken, surely then in the morning the people had gone up every one from following his brother.<\/p>\n<p>(o) If you had not provoked them to battle, 2Sa 2:14.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Geneva Bible Notes<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>And Joab said, [As] God liveth, unless thou hadst spoken, surely then in the morning the people had gone up every one from following his brother. 27. unless thou hadst spoken ] Abner found fault with Joab for continuing the pursuit. Joab retorts that Abner himself was to blame for the commencement of the battle. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-227\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Exegetical and Hermeneutical Commentary of 2 Samuel 2:27&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8088","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-commentary"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8088","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8088"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8088\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8088"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8088"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8088"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}