{"id":8469,"date":"2022-09-24T02:36:11","date_gmt":"2022-09-24T07:36:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-178\/"},"modified":"2022-09-24T02:36:11","modified_gmt":"2022-09-24T07:36:11","slug":"exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-178","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/bible-commentary\/exegetical-and-hermeneutical-commentary-of-2-samuel-178\/","title":{"rendered":"Exegetical and Hermeneutical Commentary of 2 Samuel 17:8"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 align='center'><b><i> For, said Hushai, thou knowest thy father and his men, that they [be] mighty men, and they [be] chafed in their minds, as a bear robbed of her whelps in the field: and thy father [is] a man of war, and will not lodge with the people. <\/i><\/b><\/h3>\n<p> <strong> 8<\/strong>. <em> For, said Hushai<\/em> ] <strong> And Hushai said.<\/p>\n<p><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em> chafed in their minds<\/em> ] Lit. <em> bitter of soul<\/em>: embittered and exasperated. Cp. <span class='bible'>Jdg 18:25<\/span>; <span class='bible'>1Sa 22:2<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><em> as a bear robbed of her whelps<\/em> ] Proverbial for its ferocity. Cp. <span class='bible'>Pro 17:12<\/span>; <span class='bible'>Hos 13:8<\/span>. The Syrian bear is said to be particularly ferocious. See <span class='bible'>1Sa 17:34<\/span>. The Sept. adds, &ldquo;and like a savage sow in the plain,&rdquo; which is rather a Greek than a Hebrew simile. Cp. Hom. <em> Il.<\/em> xiii. 471 ff.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P> Verse <span class='bible'>8<\/span>. <I><B>As a bear robbed of her whelps<\/B><\/I>] All wild beasts are very furious when robbed of their young; but we have some remarkable instances of the maternal affection of the bear in such circumstances; see one at the end of the chapter. <span class='bible'>2Sa 17:28<\/span>.<\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Adam Clarke&#8217;s Commentary and Critical Notes on the Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><P> <B>Mighty men; <\/B>of approved courage and strength, therefore not so soon vanquished as Ahithophel supposeth. <\/P> <P><B>Chafed in their minds, <\/B>Heb. <I>bitter of soul<\/I>, inflamed with rage; desperate, and therefore resolved to sell their lives at a dear rate. <\/P> <P><B>A man of war; <\/B>a wise prince and general; who knowing of what importance it is to secure his own person, and that your great design is against his life, will doubtless use extraordinary care to keep out of your reach, which he may easily do. <\/P> <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: English Annotations on the Holy Bible by Matthew Poole<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong>For (said Hushai) thou knowest thy father and his men, that they [be] mighty men<\/strong>,&#8230;. Men of courage and valour, and not such weak-handed and weak-hearted men, and so easily intimidated, as Ahithophel suggests:<\/p>\n<p><strong>and they [be] chafed in their minds<\/strong>; or &#8220;bitter in soul&#8221; f; not merely filled with trouble and anguish, and depressed in their spirits, on account of that, as the phrase sometimes signifies; but enraged and full of wrath at the rebellion raised against their prince, which obliged them with him to leave their habitations; and now being desperate, their all lying at stake, their wives and children, their families and estates, they would fight furiously in the defence of the king and themselves, and not so soon flee as Ahithophel had represented:<\/p>\n<p><strong>as a bear robbed of her whelps in the field<\/strong>; a bear is a very furious creature, especially a she bear, and the more when it has whelps, and more so when deprived of them g, when it ranges about in the field, and in its fury attacks whomsoever it meets with;<\/p>\n<p> <span class='bible'>[See comments on Ho 13:8]<\/span>;<\/p>\n<p><strong>and thy father [is] a man of war<\/strong>; not only bold and courageous, but expert and skilful in all the arts of war and not easy to be surprised and circumvented, as Ahithophel intimated:<\/p>\n<p><strong>and will not lodge with the people<\/strong>; in the camp, but at some distance from it; partly to prevent any traitorous design upon him in it, and partly that he might not be surprised by the enemy, knowing that their chief view was to seize his person; and therefore as it would not be easy to find him where he was, he could not be smitten alone, as Ahithophel proposed.<\/p>\n<p>f   &#8220;amari animo&#8221;, Pagninus, Montanus; &#8220;amaro animo&#8221;, V. L. Tigurine version, Junius &amp; Tremellius, Piscator. g Aristot. Hist. Animal. l. 6. c. 18. &amp; 9. 1.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Gill&#8217;s Exposition of the Entire Bible<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p><strong><em><span class='bible'>2Sa 17:8<\/span><\/em><\/strong><strong>. <\/strong><strong><em>They be chased in their minds, as a bear robbed of her whelps<\/em><\/strong><strong><\/strong> The curious have, in general, long since remarked the coarseness of the images used in the Eastern writings. I have met with instances of this kind, which may serve to illustrate some passages of Scripture more perfectly than I have yet seen. In particular, Hushai&#8217;s comparing David and his men, in this place, to a <em>bear robbed of her whelps, <\/em>appears to us very odd; and it shocks our delicacy much more when we find it applied to the Majesty of heaven, <span class='bible'>Lam 3:10<\/span>. This, however, is entirely owing to the difference of the taste of the Europeans, from that of the people of the Levant. We in England, when we compare a person to a <em>bear, <\/em>have something of a disagreeable fierceness, and awkward roughness in view; and therefore these paintings give us pain. But though <em>we <\/em>do, the Eastern nations do not, blend these ideas with those of strength and terribleness in displeasure: that, therefore, which appears an indecent comparison to us, was none to them: and, accordingly, this image still continues in use among those people. Maillet, in his 11th letter, informs us, that <em>Saladine <\/em>going one day from Cairo up to the castle he had built there, and causing his brother Sirocoe, who had accompanied him, to take a view of its works and buildings, said to him, &#8220;This castle, and all Egypt, will be one day the possession of your children.&#8221; Sirocoe replying, that it was wrong to talk after that manner, since heaven had given him children to succeed to the crown, Saladine rejoined, &#8220;My children are born in Egypt, where men degenerate, and lose their spirit and bravery; but <em>yours <\/em>are born in the mountains of Circassia, of a man that possesses the fierceness of <em>bears, <\/em>and their courage.&#8221; The event justified the prediction, the posterity of Saladine reigning but a few years in Egypt after the death of that great prince. Here the reader sees Sirocoe compared to <em>bears <\/em>by an Eastern prince, when an eulogium was intended, and not the least disrespectful hint designed. See <em>Observations, <\/em>p. 321 and Scheuehzer, tom. 5: p. 13. <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Commentary on the Holy Bible by Thomas Coke<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p> 2Sa 17:8 For, said Hushai, thou knowest thy father and his men, that they [be] mighty men, and they [be] chafed in their minds, as a bear robbed of her whelps in the field: and thy father [is] a man of war, and will not lodge with the people.<\/p>\n<p> Ver. 8. <strong> They be mighty men.<\/strong> ] Mighty indeed they were, whereas some one of them could lift up his hand against a hundred, two hundred, three hundred of the enemy. 2Sa 23:18-21 And David himself was of known valour. Our Richard II, when dethroned and committed to Pomfret Castle, was there assaulted by eight assassins, four of whom he valiantly killed. What would David have done then, think we? who as when he was young he fought with great Goliath and slew him, so, long after this rebellion of Absalom, and when he was well in years, he encountered Ishbibenob the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight; 2Sa 21:16 surely he with his old soldiers would have made some work among Absalom&rsquo;s raw men, fresh water soldiers. <\/p>\n<p><strong> <\/p>\n<p> As a bear robbed.<\/strong> ] So they, forced to leave all they have, will redouble their resolution to recover what they have lost: and who knoweth not that anger is the whetstone of valour? and that men enraged will venture their utmost? <\/p>\n<p><strong> <\/p>\n<p> And thy father is a man of war.<\/strong> ] A wary warrior, and expert in stratagems of all sorts: let him alone to look to one.<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: John Trapp&#8217;s Complete Commentary (Old and New Testaments)<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>men. Hebrew. &#8216;enosh. App-14. <\/p>\n<p>mighty men. Hebrew. gibborim. App-14. <\/p>\n<p>chafed = bitter. <\/p>\n<p>minds = souls. Hebrew. nephesh. App-13. <\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: Companion Bible Notes, Appendices and Graphics<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n<p>mighty men: 2Sa 15:18, 2Sa 21:18-22, 2Sa 23:8, 2Sa 23:9, 2Sa 23:16, 2Sa 23:18, 2Sa 23:20-22, 1Sa 16:18, 1Sa 17:34-36, 1Sa 17:50, 1Ch 11:25-47, Heb 11:32-34 <\/p>\n<p>chafed in their minds: Heb. bitter of soul, Jdg 18:25 <\/p>\n<p>as a bear: 2Ki 2:24, Pro 17:12, Pro 28:15, Dan 7:5, Hos 13:8 <\/p>\n<p>thy father is: 1Sa 23:23 <\/p>\n<p>Reciprocal: 1Sa 1:10 &#8211; in bitterness of soul 1Sa 18:25 &#8211; thought 1Sa 22:2 &#8211; discontented 1Sa 30:6 &#8211; grieved Job 21:25 &#8211; in the bitterness<\/p>\n<h4 align='right'><i><b>Fuente: The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge<\/b><\/i><\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For, said Hushai, thou knowest thy father and his men, that they [be] mighty men, and they [be] chafed in their minds, as a bear robbed of her whelps in the field: and thy father [is] a man of war, and will not lodge with the people. 8. 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