{"id":35534,"date":"2022-09-10T22:13:10","date_gmt":"2022-09-11T03:13:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/sermons\/the-debate-is-on\/"},"modified":"2022-09-10T22:13:10","modified_gmt":"2022-09-11T03:13:10","slug":"the-debate-is-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biblia.work\/sermons\/the-debate-is-on\/","title":{"rendered":"The Debate Is On"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Moderator: Welcome to the last of three debates arranged by the bipartisan Pastor Search Commission of Old First Church, I&#8217;m your Moderator, Bob Quill, editor of Old Church Times.<br \/>You may recall that our first debate was led by a panel of Christian journalists. The second and this last debate will be led by a single moderator. This arrangement was at the request of our three finalists in the Old Church Pastor Search Campaign. Let me introduce them now.<br \/>First is our incumbent, Pastor Dave. Our next candidate is Pastor Don, who serves at a smaller church in our area and has decided it&#8217;s time to move up. Then, in an unusual situation, we have a third candidate, Mr. Bucks, chairman of the Deacons at Old First Church who has decided to run for Pastor.<br \/>Thank you for being here tonight, candidates, and now the first question. Since you became pastor, Pastor Dave, the church hasn&#8217;t grown much. What do you have to say about that?<br \/>Pastor Dave: Well, Bob, I&#8217;m glad you asked me that question, because I think some of the local media has completely distorted my record on this point. Of course, we haven&#8217;t grown as much as I&#8217;d like. You&#8217;ll remember that the Church Board raised the price of fellowship meals a couple of years ago and that has been a real drain on the membership. I begged them to reduce the price, not raise it, but they wouldn&#8217;t support my &#8220;Church Growth&#8221; package of membership incentives. I reluctantly went along with the increase, and you see what&#8217;s happened. So, Bob, it&#8217;s really not my fault. And if you compare our stable membership at Old First Church with the big membership declines at neighboring churches, you&#8217;ll see that we&#8217;re in great shape and positioned for big growth during my next term as pastor.<br \/>Pastor Don: That&#8217;s what these incumbent pastors always do &#8212; blame it on the Church Board. I think I can work with this Church Board, and together well grow this church to new heights. I pledge to reduce the price of fellowship meals to the majority of members; well do that by raising the price to our rich members.<br \/>Pastor Dave: Isn&#8217;t that always the way with these theological liberals? And did you folks know that as a seminary student, Pastor Don went to Union Seminary and did a project on liberation theology? Come on, Don, level with the congregation!<br \/>Pastor Don: Pastor Dave is trying to avoid the real issue, which is his sorry record as pastor. My background has nothing to do with being pastor!<br \/>Moderator: Please gentlemen, can&#8217;t we &#8230;.<br \/>Mr. Bucks: Bob, let&#8217;s get this thing settled. I can solve it. It&#8217;s easy. No problem. Like jumping off a log. Here&#8217;s the solution: Pastor Dave, 111 buy you out. Here&#8217;s a check for $300 million; take early retirement, start a mission church, whatever. Pastor Don, here&#8217;s $300 million for you. Go start a seminary, run a denomination, whatever. And I&#8217;ll get things fixed up here at Old First Church.<br \/>Pastor Dave: Gee, I think I can live with that. Thanks for the check.<br \/>Pastor Don: Me, too. Can somebody drive me to the bank?<br \/>Moderator: It seems as if this debate has ended, and we have a new pastor. At the conclusion, I&#8217;d just like to say &#8230;.<br \/>Mr. Bucks: Wait a minute, Bob. I&#8217;ve changed my mind &#8230;.<\/p>\n<div style='clear:both'><\/div>\n<div class='the_champ_sharing_container the_champ_horizontal_sharing' data-super-socializer-href=\"https:\/\/www.preaching.com\/articles\/the-debate-is-on\/\">\n<div class='the_champ_sharing_title' style=\"font-weight:bold\">Share This On:<\/div>\n<div class=\"the_champ_sharing_ul\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style='clear:both'><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Moderator: Welcome to the last of three debates arranged by the bipartisan Pastor Search Commission of Old First Church, I&#8217;m your Moderator, Bob Quill, editor of Old Church Times.You may recall that our first debate was led by a panel of Christian journalists. 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